It is time to change the name of the most controversial word in science.
"THEORY"
When discussing God with any religious person. It almost always comes up. "I am not from an ape." and "Evolution is just a theory."
I have blogged on this before. Evolution is a theory. Which means it is a fact. I won't go on describing why it is a fact, or how the scientific name works differently than the literal use. I will say it is time we(as the more intelligent group of humans) change the name from theory to something else. Less confusing to the religical.
I like Proof. The Proof of Evolution sounds good. The word Proof would suggest it is what it really is, a compilation of proven scientific models and tests.
What word would you suggest to help over come this one dumb objection they have?
"Atheists Contradict Themselves" by a blogger named Thinkpoint. He is a Pastor for a church in PA. He says a few things that bothered me. So I made some comments. When recently I got an email notification for a new comment and his reply. I was back here again. So instead of answering me on his blog, he decided to email me. I thought this would make an interesting post. I will email Thinkpoint to let him know. This way he can join in or see what we think. "Your militant un or non belief begs quite a number of questions. For example, consider that, ‘Unbelief would be untenable without the moral and metaphysical capital created and banked by the belief it displaced.” This is part of a comment from his blog.
Part of my response. "Unbelief? Are you kidding? That is possibly the dumbest thing stated ever! So lets get this straight. You think if I do not believe in pink vampire trolls that stalk infant bunnies. That my unbelief creates pink vampire trolls that stalk infant bunnies, because it needs something to displace. So now you believe in pink vampire trolls that stalk infant bunnies. That is your logic. Wow. I never realized how much power my unbelief had."
He responded with. "
Response to NoGuyintheSky:
OK, that was cute but cute won’t cut it for well-reasoned discussion. For one who “doesn’t believe” you become quite exercised by suggestions of flawed logic. If you’re analysis is right (and not just cute), guys like Dawkins are crazier than I thought. My beliefs are based on substantiated logic not wish fulfillment. I believe the universe and humans are the product of intelligent design. Any other belief/thinking is just silly and irrational. But one’s belief or unbelief does not in itself validate anything. There must be well-reasoned logic and solid evidence. Really—easter bunnies and such—you can do better than that."
I responded and he comment moderated it. I can not remember what I said. :( So he emailed me with a heading ENOUGH.
His email. "Your inability to deal honestly with history and truth tells me that you have used whatever you desire to convince yourself you are right. This tells me that you really are not as sure as you think you are. If you need evidence, study your hand or eye or ear. If that isn’t enough, consider the darkness of your own heart, your need for forgiveness and inability to transcend the inevitability of death. All humans in all places at all times share these in common."
I responded back.
Thinkpoint, You are a turtle living in a shell. Stick your neck out and learn something of your very own special religion. I spoke the truth in everything I said. Point out where I am wrong. Solid evidence, you and I, oh ya the whole world knows you do not have. You have been lying on your blog. That is not honest. What would it matter to some one who believes in the holy free pass. You do not even know his real name. A pastor and this is in a field that should be your expertise. You see god because you lack knowledge. Hand eyes and ears oh my.
The only thing with history, I can think you are referring to is Hitler being Christian. Make no mistake. He was Christian. Died Christian. He and his mom were buried Christian. The germans in a whole were mostly Christian. Those Christians that ran the camps. Gas chambers. Good Christian ignorant values. Kill Jews. Which is why they were OK with it. Christians forget Jesus was supposed to be a Jew. In case Christians cant understand their own story. FYI - Jesus never died. Gods do not die. Never for a second would he be dead. At best if Jesus was a god, he pulled a parlor trick on his ignorant minions. Since he did not die. Whose sins got covered? heh.
I am not affraid to live or die. I do not cower to fictitious deities. I am an adult. I am mature enough to know I have one life. Just like all creatures. Including you.
Well you chickened out supplying evidence. Maybe you need to ask for forgiveness. Lying that you had it. Deceiving the internet with false hope. Just like you are wrong with all of the above mentioned, you are wrong about atheists and morality.
If you want to man up, and apologize. If you need help with finding information etc. You know where I am.
Well this is his version of evidence.
Hitler a Christian? You obviously do not even know what it means to be a Christian. Do you know what the word means. And the whole name of God thing also betrays you for speaking about things you do not understand. Do you know Hebrew Aramaic and Greek? Have you studied these languages?
You’re like the person who refuses to believe that people have walked on the moon. Nothing will change your mind because you do not want evidence. Once you have concluded that people cannot walk on the moon, nothing will change your mind. Not photographs of astronauts walking on the moon nor interviews with astronauts who were there. Here are eight reason it is hard to be an a-THEIST.
1. An atheist assigns himself to life without ultimate purpose.
Yes, atheists enjoy many smaller meanings of life– like friendship and love, pleasure and sorrow, Mozart and Plato. But to be consistent with his atheism, he cannot allow for ultimate meaning. Yet, if the atheist is honest, he will admit to feeling that there is something more to existence -something bigger. Someone said, “The blazing evidence for immortality is our dissatisfaction with any other solution.” According to Scripture, God has, “set eternity in the hearts of men” (Ecclesiastes 3:11). To maintain his position, the atheist must suppress the feeling that there is more to life than what is temporal. But the atheist encounters many other difficulties.
2. The atheist must suppress the demands of logic.
He is like the man who finds an encyclopedia lying in the woods and refuses to believe it is the product of intelligent design. Everything about the book suggests intelligent cause. But, if he accepted such a possibility, he might be forced to conclude that living creatures composed of millions of DNA-controlled cells (each cell containing the amount of information in an encyclopedia) have an intelligent cause. His controlling bias against God will not allow him to accept this.
3. Yet, ironically, the atheist has to believe in miracles without believing in God.
Why? Well, one law that nature seems to obey is this: whatever begins to exist is caused to exist. The atheist knows that the universe began to exist and since the universe is, according to the atheist, all there is, the very existence of the universe seems to be a colossal violation of the laws of nature (i.e., a miracle). It’s hard to believe in miracles without God.
4. An atheist must also suppress all notions of morality.
He is not able to declare any quality to be morally superior to another. Such admissions require an absolute standard of goodness and duty. Without this, there is no basis for an atheist to declare peace better than war or love better than hate. These are simply alternative choices without moral superiority. The atheist is stuck believing that morality has no claim on you or anyone else.
5. In fact, the atheist must conclude that evil is an illusion.
For there to be evil, there must also be some real, objective standard of right and wrong. But if the physical universe is all there is, there can be no such standard (How could arrangements of matter and energy make judgments about good and evil true?). So, there are no real evils, just violations of human customs or conventions. How hard it would be to think of murderers as merely having bad manners.
6. The atheist must also live with the arrogance of his position.
Although he realizes that he does not possess total knowledge, his assertion that there is no God requires that he pretend such knowledge. Although he has limited experience, he must convince himself that he has total experience so that he can eliminate the possibility of God. It is not easy to hold the arrogant assertions required by atheism in a society that requires blind tolerance of every ideology.
7. The atheist must also deny the validity of historical proof.
If he accepted the standard rules for testing the truth claims of historical documents, he would be forced to accept the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. The account of Jesus’ resurrection is strongly validated by standard rules for judging historical accuracy. The extensive manuscript evidence of eyewitnesses to the resurrection is presented in an unbiased, authentic manner. It is the atheist’s anti-supernatural bias that keeps him from allowing history to prove anything.
8. Finally, the atheist must admit that human beings are not importantly different from other animals.
According to the atheist, we are simply the result of blind chance operating on the primordial ooze, and differing from animals by only a few genes. Yet, the wonders of human achievement and the moral dignity we ascribe to human beings just do not fit with the claim that we are no different than the animals. The realities of human creativity, love, reason, and moral value seem to indicate that humans are creatures uniquely made in the image of God. The atheist’s problem with belief in God is not an absence of evidence but suppression of it. “For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools” (Romans 1:20-22).
Yesterday I posted that PZ Myers received a letter from the thought police at Creation Central. I ranted about how stupid they were to even send the letter. The fact that there are NO known cases of an Atheist Group doing anything. That they should be essentially doing is strip searching every Xtian, because ya never know which is the crazy lunatic fundamentalist. The museum could misquote ONE verse and all HELL could break loose! God help them if they do., because ya can't stop a fundie on the rampage!
Well anyway, I digress. Today, I had the day off and was happily minding my own business taking pictures with my long lost camera. I get home, bust the email open and ... I see something from the SSA(Secular Student Alliance). I pop it open. It is a reminder to behave. lol
Is this the middle ages? What about my rights of free speech? This is the internet? Right?
"However, it's been brought to our attention that a few commenters on PZ's blog have written some really absurd, disrespectful things about what they plan to do while at the Museum. We know that people post stupid things in blog comments and that the comments on PZ's blog can be especially vitriolic (indeed, PZ has described the comments section of his blog as "bacon-chummed shark-, piranha-, and candiru-infested waters"). We suspect that most of the people posting these things aren't actually coming to the museum with us. We also know that if any of these posters are actually heading to the Museum with us, that they know how to behave in a respectful and courteous manner in person--even if they push the envelope in blog comments."
Hey! First I didn't type anything bad over there! Well I did link my post. Sounds like bait and switch, or entrapment. Yah! Thats it! Thats the ticket. They entrapped me!
Wait I did say at end of post, I would behave just so I can take photos of museum. Maybe they sent it to everyone, but my name is only at top. Is Lyz singling me out? Are they brutally trying to restrict my humor on my own blog! Help! Help! I'm being Repressed! Now I am being threatened by both sides! I thought the SSA was an Anarcho Syndicus Commune. Who the hell does Lyz think she is? The Executive officer of the Week? Who elected her anyway? I didn't vote for her.
OK it is just a form letter. Well it better be! lol
Geesh! I promise to behave on the field trip mom! Can I go now? PLEEEEZ!!! @:-D
The Fucking Christians at the Creation Museum honestly are scared. So much they had their Chief Mall Cop, write PZ Myers and give a stern warning. None of the above would be acceptable, and may(will) result in being escorted off the premises. What a joke, dipshit with 4th grade education and a badge is warning us.
When was the last time any atheist group did anything? Blow up a building? Kill someone for something they did not agree with? Tie up a child without clothes and beat them for being a witch? Murder someone for not believing in God? ..... ..... ..... Here is a small clue. Never. What was that? NEVER!
Some how we must be serious while they show children playing, as their pet carnivore dinosaur stands next to them. While they have a saddle for riding on a triceratops. While they explain in their best Ricky Riccardo voice. "Lucy! You gots some explanin to do!" How the earth is only 6,000yrs old.
The great Noah flood wiped out the dinosaurs. How the great flood caused the sediment to cover different groups of dinosaurs differently from the same flood. How all of science uses 20+ types of dating methods, and they have yet to prove any are inaccurate, but they claim those are all wrong! How they use the BIBLE dating method(yes the bible can be used to to tell how old things are. Not only is the bible used to pick up gay hating chicks. It is also a scientific instrument.) We are not allowed to crack a smile, because true Christian Thought Nazi's will strong arm us off to a Christian made gas Chamber.
If it is all true, you would think they could handle us laughing. If they were able to prove there points, they could. BUT THEY CAN'T! Which is why there sensitive little Christian feelings will get hurt if we laugh, wear a t-shirt, or rolling on the floor holding our bellies, not able to breathe as tears run down our face. They are a bunch of Christian Cry Babies! They can stick their bible up there dinosaurs ass!
So I can go in I must "Speak friend and enter." or promise I will behave until I am off their Retard Land! I promise not to upset the Retards while I am there. Really I apologize to any person that is genetically, biologically really retarded. I am sorry for your condition. I am not sorry for any self inflicted, deliberately ignorant ignoranus Christian Retard!
Other than that i am excited to go, see the place where stupidity was truly created, retards are born, and witness the unveiling of "The Ultimate Proof of God!" That should be keen. I wonder if he will show. After all it is his unveiling. Maybe get his autograph. Shake his hand and say "Hey ya Big Fucker? Why so shy?" "Shit man, I didn't know. Ya could have gave a sign or something." It would make perfect sense for him to reveal himself to a room full of intelligent atheists. If we believe, then everyone has to believe. We are as smart as you get.
I am really excited to get out and meet other fellow/fellowette atheists. Road trip with the Mixter. Hoping the Dharma wants to pop in(hint, hint :D). Meet PZ Myers. get lots and lots of pics, take lots of notes. So I can have even MORE fun blogging about these lower rung dead end branched humans. Wow now that sounds like fun!
Christians in Texas are trying to get Christianity's exaggerated contributions taught in social studies. I saw this at the BEattitude. It makes me think. Are Christians on the attack? Is war being declared?
Maybe that is an exaggeration, but is it? Christians have been trying like crazy to get creation taught in schools. Intelligent Design(same as creationism) taught as science. Now they are trying to weasel in a back door, attempting an end around on social studies.
Yep without Gods help we would not be here. Heh. Tell that to the soldiers who had to face the British at Bunker Hill(Breeds Hill). So God favored Colonial rabble on that day, and not the British soldiers? Was it God, or the fact the British did not have the hills protected? The colonists inflicted heavy causalities on the British. They had to give up the hill on the third British assault of it. Did God change teams in the middle of the battles? Could it be that God did not resupply the colonists? Maybe they colonists did not an access to enough ammunition for a Turkey shoot. Was God in charge of supplies? Did we become a country by over coming Gods manic issues?
God was there when George crossed the Delaware? What will be Christian revisionist history?
So who gets to decide what gets taught? An idiot who believes in the God of the Bible. Is he going to teach Priests and Ministers mooched off their communities? Collecting tithes for their benefit. Really giving false inspirational placebo speeches for food. Is he going to teach, the only good thing Christianity ever did, which was for Christianity itself? The virus of Christianity spread itself in the population while killing or limiting other competitor religions. Witch trials? Is that in there? Puritans? They wanted to be free from religious persecution, how did they act once here? Christian like? lol Yes.
Most nonresistant Christians were quite content with their lot as British subjects. As three Mennonite bishops in Pennsylvania wrote in 1773, "Through God's mercy we enjoy unlimited freedom in both civil and religious matters."
Are they going teach Colonists were good Christians escaping British Catholic/Papel rule? How are they going to twist this?
They are already teaching humans rode dinosaurs and kept them for pets.
I want to know how that pet velociraptor didn't eat the whole family. I have seen Jurassic Park and they are clever hunters! :) Did GW(no not Bush) stand out in front of his army with a gigantic cross, just like the Jerusalem in Kingdom of Heaven? Saying "God wills it!" did not work out for the crusaders. Every soldier that had a bible in his pocket was spared by divine intervention?
One of the panel, David Barton, founder of a Christian heritage group called WallBuilders, argues that the curriculum should reflect the fact that the US Constitution was written with God in mind including that "there is a fixed moral law derived from God and nature", that "there is a creator" and "government exists primarily to protect God-given rights to every individual".
Yep freedom for dumb religions. They made sure idiots would be free to practice any ancient religion. Yep those stupid people are free to talk about it. As far as morals go, God has no moral compass. The Christian God is INSANE. There was no creator, and there sure as hell(lol) is no God given anything(He is totally fictitious).
Maybe they want to teach that the pledge of allegiance was drafted by Christian Ministers in the late 1784. You know "One Nation, Under God", except that happened in 1954 when pushed into law by the Knights of Columbus, NY division. Maybe the dinosaurs taught humans the pledge, before the great flood. Really what can Christians really teach us?
We need stronger laws enacted to tax any religious group sponsoring, talking, distributing, pushing any educational, scientific and or political agenda. One misstep, they are now taxed. I personally think their little scam of a side show should all be taxed to death. Literally make them zero profit, to negative.
This is a war. A religious war. The cretins of religion are attacking the future intelligence of the United States.
The goal is for the religious to convert the atheists. The prizes awarded to converts are a trip to the Holy Land of their choice! But wait! There is more! "We are giving the biggest prize in the world, the gift of belief in God," Kanal T chief executive Seyhan Soylu told Reuters. LMAO!
"We don't approve of anyone being an atheist. God is great and it doesn't matter which religion you believe in. The important thing is to believe," Soylu said. Hmm. Did a Muslim just say it did not matter what religion? Now that is funny. What crack is he smoking? I know it matters to the Christian. It always matters. If you do not believe in their personal deity, you are damned to hell. Possibly painfully murdered while here on earth.
Seeing how this is in an Islamic country. Religious have no problem with being dishonest and deceptive. I can totally seeing the 10 atheists being hand picked Muslims in disguise of a freethinker. At the very least a few will be. If nobody converts, why have the show. Islam will win for propaganda and ratings. Any true atheist dumb enough to be on this show in Turkey, that does not convert will be arrested for blasphemy. Sentenced to death by a good tried and true method. Stoning! If they are smart they should convert to Buddhism, and win a trip to India or Thailand!
The United States Senate is filled with all sorts. Very few are freethinkers or have the capacity of thought. In this era of the Senate, which it totally acceptable to find out about whether people inhaled, did they have sexual relations(with or without cigars), steroid use in baseball(McGuire, Sosa,Giambi,Bonds), church finances, and the NFL and Bigten television cable issues. Why cant they form a committee/grand jury to look into evidence for and against god. To remove any protection of taxation for all religions. To write and pass laws to protect the citizens of the United States from religious shams/shell games for profit.
Just like I.D.(Intelligent Design/Creationism) lost in court easily. God belief would lose too. Let the lower forms of humanity present their case for God/Jesus/Christianity/Islam/Judaism. Then let the next rung in human evolution submit facts, evidence, and logic to show the big 3 religions are made up. God did not create the world/people and everything in it. Bibles are ancient text with stories plagiarized from other more ancient religions. The Senate would be able to put all who lie to the committee in prison for perjury. So let the I.D. proponents submit their version and go to jail.
I am not sure any Senator would want to form this without a substantial push from the population. Maybe the strategy we should employ is to get the majority of our nation to want this. To show these godless heathens that it is true. God is real. Jesus does love us. He did walk the earth. Jesus was tortured for our sins. He did come back to life, in front of witnesses and ascend to heaven. He is coming back. He will fix all this shit. The rapture is real. There is a heaven. We can not wait. Why would you not want to believe?
This is the strategy we must take to end the strangle hold religion has on the U.S. We need this cause to infect the religious, so they do the work. Any ideas on how?
Father's day is on the third Sunday in the month of June. While most people are looking back reflecting on their lives, dads and time spent with him.
Today would be a Great Day for our country and the world to look back and reflect on our nations founding father's. By giving great thought to the Constitution they helped raise our nation. While it is accepted(except by Christian Fundies) that the big seven were deists, humanists, agnostic and or atheist.
In itself was quite the rebellious act during an age when Christianity dominated. The Salem witch trials happened only 100 years prior. Living in the very narrow lens of Christian religion these men could have been seen as witches in Salem, or heretics during the Spanish Inquisition.
Clearly during our time, these men would be atheists.
On this day if they were here to witness the abomination the religion has become in this country. I wonder if they would have thought, that they did not give us enough protection. With religion, now a sham for profit. Churches of all faiths just popping up every where. The total disgrace of the ignorance of Christians in America(in which they had a great opportunity for an education.) Religion playing such a prominent role in our politics. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine would all be ashamed of what happened.
What should we do? Besides blogging and pointing out how stupid our religious neighbors may be. It is time! In Honor of our Founding Fathers to write our congressmen to start legislation to remove the fangs from Christ and all religions. We need an organization to get our thoughts and ideas out there. To be heard above the voices of stupidity(Christians and Muslims.) Let this day become our Independence Day!
Take back America from the Tyrants of the Lost. Let the us lead the world. Let them follow our lead.
While on the net, I noticed an ad for religious degrees. I clicked on it, and this is what I saw.
Christians actually paying to learn to bullshit bible studies. An actual degree of BS. When you submit(lol) your information to Lancaster(A fine institution.) You get a packet that reads like,
With instructional classes like these, it is time to start a Church! Church of Holy Charity! If you need to learn how to BS. Send your money to me. I can BS with the best of them. I use my BS power for GOOD, fighting the EVIL of religion. @:-D)
The big three combined make up the majority of religions worshiped by people on earth. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have there origins from the same area. All three come from Yahweh. All three have a different outlook on their VERSION of the Yahweh god. All three stole and plagiarized whole texts from other more ancient religions. Sumerian, Egyptian, Canaan and Babylon. They all have differences. Jews are not to say the name of their god. Muslims can not draw. Pictures. Oh ya of god. lol Apparently Allah is picture shy. All of these are classic Burger King Religions. As tribes moved into other areas, they borrowed parts of ruling deities they liked/wanted. Which means they are not following the true word of a or any god. They made up/changed god to their liking. All people have done this through out time. How else can we have 40,000 different versions of Christianity. If it is the word of God, how can you have so many interpretations. Judaism has nine main branches and many more off those. Islam has mainly two but there are least 5 or more. Islam is the most dangerous religion to divisions. For a believer to change religions is one of many crimes punishable by death.
All these people all believe they are worshiping the one true god. If they just look at their history, they should see all of these others are very similar and all have similar origins/stories. If they learn about the ancient cultures and the gods they worshiped. How could they still believe?
Come all ye Christians, Jews and Muslims. Crack a book! There is no god. @:-D)